Posts by Nathan Natas

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Last Thursdayism

by Cygnus in

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this is a chat i had a few months ago on yahoo (you people who chat on this stupid board, get yer asses over to yahoo, now!)..

jag1lisa: what religion are you.

cygnustsp: last thursdayist.

Nathan Natas

Excellent stuff.

You guys (and you KNOW who you are) are a delight to read.

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Curious... Why so many planets?

by StifflersErSlayersBrother in

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i usually for some reason wake up pondering on my life and coming up with questions about certain things... this morning i looked out my window and thought... if god made earth for humans to live on.. then why did he create billions, and billions of planets inside billions and billions of galaxies?

if earth is the one out of allll these planets that has life on it... why?

Nathan Natas

To address your original question:

The mistake you're making is in thinking that there is a grand design to it all. The fact is that there is NOT. One thing that we've learned from examining life on this planet is that lifeforms can be remarkably hardy, surviving in the low pressure, low temperature, high radiation upper atmosphere and in the extremely high pressure superheated temperatures of deep sea thermal vents (and some of these critters enjoy a very non-"standard" energy cycle). It is quite likely that somewhere out there the may be planets with life on them - and there will be some among those with intelligent life. Why? Because life seeks it's own fulfillment. It is natural to do so.

There is no spirit realm populated with any kind of beings. The folks who tell you there is such a realm are only trying to use their phony invention to take authority to control you.

There is not a single thing of value in the entire history of man that materialized out of some spirit realm. Mystical manna has never fallen from the sky. Everything man has, good or bad, is a result of his mind and his labor, nothing more.

Don't fear boogeymen, and don't bow down to someone else's imagination.

Keep asking questions.

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They need more money, can anyone help?

by outcast in

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we had our local needs part on this tonight!

it was truly an excellent part, he literally made me cry it was so touching...i won't name the whole list he named, but he gave different examples of zeal...it isn't just going out in service, it means much more..here are some of the points he brought out..... 1.zeal is the older sister who despite her chronic illnesses which keep her feeling her worst, is never missing from the meeting, even though she might be more comfortable at home.. 2. zeal is the young child who has the courage to go up to the watchtower study conductor and ask to called on in a specific paragraph, and raises his hand anyway even though he knows the comment is already his or hers.. 3. zeal is the old couple in the hall whose only means of living is social security, but yet they always find something to give jehovah during each month.. 4. zeal is the single publisher or pioneer servant, who is drained of energy from working, but who is always in service no matter how tired they are.. those are just a few of the ones he mentioned.. can you give some examples of what zeal is?

i think this is a great subject!

Nathan Natas

Zeal is permitting these parasitic metaphysicians to suck your lifeblood while they pour swill down your throat to make up for the fluid loss.

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SATAN the DEVIL

by Amazing in

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in fairness to god, i thought it was time that we focus in the devil a minute.

that sounds rather odd.

what has satan done, at least assuming he is more than a myth, and that the bible record is accurate.

Nathan Natas

Hi Bridgette,

Zoroastrianism is indeed a remarkable religion, well worth examination by anyone interested in the evolution of man's least tangble invention: god.

I think there is evidence that Zoroaster was the TRUE prophet or spokesman of god. For one thing, they do not proselytize.

Freddy Mercury of Queen was a Zoroastrian, and I think we'd all agree that Freddy Mercury could have kicked Micheal Jackson's ass!

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"Whoever fights Monsters..."

by rubberducky in

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whoever fights monsters.... there is a quote that has been alluded to at times in the threads about pedophilia and blood and the wt societys attempts at spin doctoring and revisionism.

i felt it would be useful to read the whole quote as contained in bartlett.

it is from nietzsches human, all to human:.

Nathan Natas

Two generations ago, the world fought a monster called the Nazis.

How much anger, precisely, would have been the correct amount of anger for a victim of the Nazis to hold on to?

I'm not saying that the Nazis and the Watchtower are equivalent. The Nazis, after all, killed children, made people subject to insane medical "experimentation," hated their enemies and were supervised by a ruling class that was degenerate and abusive.

There is also a saying about walking a mile in someone else's shoes, isn't there?

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Watchtower bodyguards

by Nathan Natas in

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over the past week, i've seen a couple of references to brothers assigned as bodyguards to various watchtower officials.

it got me thinking... .

is this job assigned on the basis of the scripture that tells how jesus said, 'boys, draw yer swords!

Nathan Natas

In theory they are, but what if someone came in and hit them with a straight blast tiger's paw strike to the adam's apple? Do you think they could handle that?

I think that if REAL "tribulation style" trouble showed up, they'd wet their pants and hid under the piano.

of course, that's only my opinion. I could be wrong.

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Watchtower bodyguards

by Nathan Natas in

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over the past week, i've seen a couple of references to brothers assigned as bodyguards to various watchtower officials.

it got me thinking... .

is this job assigned on the basis of the scripture that tells how jesus said, 'boys, draw yer swords!

Nathan Natas

Over the past week, I've seen a couple of references to brothers assigned as bodyguards to various Watchtower officials. It got me thinking...

Is this job assigned on the basis of the scripture that tells how Jesus said, 'Boys, draw yer swords!" in gethsemane?

Are puny 300 lb. pro-wrestler human guards necessary because the angels normally assigned to protect god's Fake inDiscreet Slaves are on vacation somewhere?

Does the job description of the guard state that when necessary they will step into the line of fire and repeatedly turn the other cheek until the danger is past?

Just how are these guys selected for the job? Do they place a LOT more magazines than mere mortals? can they Bench-Press 800 lbs? Has the Holy Spirit revealed to them the inner secrets of Jeet Kune Do?
..or are they just really mean MFers on a short leash?

Yes, I've got my tongue in my cheek, but these are serous questions.

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I'VE BEEN EXECUTED TODAY!!!

by exodus in

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a side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the wts.

i urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience.

she's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems.

Nathan Natas

You have survived your execution. Welcome to the real world!

"The King is dead! Long live the King!"

I think copyright prevents you from using the photo to make a profit - I wouldn't give you a cent for the cur's photo, so post it, if you wish.

By telling the truth about your experiences in the Borg you'll damage them. All you need to do is speak out.

They staged their "execution," and you have risen as a warrior to oppose them.

Now live long, and prosper.

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Who needs meetings

by StifflersErSlayersBrother in

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when i got this board..... 1. you dont care if i partake of recreational phamacuticals.... 2. you dont care if i grow a beard :).

3. you dont ask me to partake of "privleges" that involve a microphone on a stick.... 4. you all know what i'm going through and dont give me odd looks like im a bad person.... 5. i feel actuall love here...

Nathan Natas

I'll admit it - (compared to you) I'm an old fart.

I want you to be you and celebrate your youness - if I tried to be you I couldn't do it with the panache you do - but I have difficulties when it comes to recreational phamacuticals; all of us need all the brain cells we've got.

Don't get fried.

Once you get to be my age (or a bit older), then you can start lookin' for Jehovah's Magic Cactus.

I will be for you and your brothers here what nobody was for me; an older guy who will smile and say, "You're alright, you're OK."

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Irate email

by D wiltshire in

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below is a email i received today.

the person doen't know me except from i think randy watter web site where i post my appeal letter to the body of elders on which i left my email address.

i never told her i wasn't df but she gets facts confussed alot.. anyway i sent the post on barbra anderson from our site to her you might find it interesting so i'm posting it below.. .

Nathan Natas

I'm sure Dateline NBC would be swayed by the cogent arguments of these babbling idiots.